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Re: Believing in what you sell...
At 5:30 PM 2/13/97, Simon Brooke wrote:
>OK, so this is deliberately provocative. A challenge, in fact. I went
>over this evening to
>
>http://www.netcraft.co.uk/cgi-bin/Survey/whats
>
>to find out what web-servers the major LISP vendors actually run
>themselves.
>
>Answers?
>
>www.harlequin.com is running Netscape-Commerce/1.12
>www.franz.com is running Apache/1.1.1
>www.expertelligence.com is running WebBase 4.10 build 54 BETA.
> (which isn't surprising because WebBase is one of their products)
>www.digitool.com is running NCSA/1.3.
>
>Netcraft found cl-http running on just 27 of 739688 web sites, a tiny
>proportion. Of these, 11 were in .com domains:
>
> www2.banned-books.com
> www2.commodity-exchange.com
> www2.consumers-report.com
> www2.education-resources.com
> www2.freethought.com
> interaction.in-progress.com
> www2.jordan-maxwell.com
> www.se1.com
> www2.synergy-enterprises.com
> www2.truth-seeker.com
> www2.truthseeker.com
>
>On investigation, though, I found that these were all actually the same
>server (Synergy Enterprises, www.se1.com, 204.216.182.1, apparently a
>PowerMac), with the exception of http://interaction.in-progress.com/.
>Or, to put it differently, it appears that in the whole world, only two
>organisations are prepared to bet their Web-sites on cl-http... both,
>incidentally on Macintosh CL.
>
>This worries the *hell* out of me. I am evaluating cl-http on UN*X,
>currently with Franz Allegro 4.3. I'm frankly having some difficulty
>getting it going (but mainly, I think, because I find the documentation
>extremely opaque). But if I'm the only person in the world running a
>commercial cl-http on UN*X? I don't mind swimming against the tide, but
>that's ridiculous!
>
>OK, guys, does **none** of you believe in the technology you're selling?
>Or do you just think that cl-http is a poor Web server? Or do you find
>it too hard to configure and set up? *If* I manage it, I'm going to
>write some 'for dummies' documentation, because I find the existing
>documentation has too high an assumed knowledge threshold for me to even
>begin to understand it (hell, I've only got twelve years of professional
>LISP and three years of professional Web service).
>
>--
>simon@intelligent.co.uk (Simon Brooke)
>http://www.intelligent.co.uk/~simon
>
> [ This mind intentionally left blank ]
Try also:
http://164.zami.com/ ; a directory of Cambridge, MA
http://macjames.jazzybee.ie:8000 ; a directory of Westport, Ireland
They both run InfoStop, a cl-http based vertical application from Digitool
Applied Technologies. More info at www.zami.com, a static site running
netscape:).
It's simple, switch to the PowerPC.
Hazem Sayed
Digitool, Inc.
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